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Below are some stories from our members. If you have a story you wish to tell about your Myasthenia Gravis experiences please email info@myasthenia.org.au

Glenda's story - Glenda Bidner
Beyond the limits - Clete Gress
Mestinon doesn't taste half bad anyway - Walter Bass
The Myasthenic Bride – Joyce Engledew
My MG experience to share - Paul Boey
So you can't see straight? Go and see a quack! - Walter Bass

 

 

Glenda's Story

Glenda has been a member of the Australian Myasthenia Association of NSW for many years. Her experience with Myasthenia is set out below.

"Hi, my name is Glenda Bidner, I have now had Myasthenia Gravis for 26 years. What you are about to read is my first 5 years with this disease.

My trouble started when I was about 17 years old, not long after leaving school. I first noticed, one night whilst trying to knit, that my fingers went a bit numb. Not long after this, whilst trying to board a bus to go to work, I just collapsed. It was like my legs weren't there. I had noticed a few days earlier that my legs were tired and heavy in the morning, but I put no importance to this.

A doctor I saw that day, and he said that I was anaemic and put me on iron tablets. A few days later, the same thing happened again. I was then sent to a Neurologist, who after running a few test, said that I was quite normal and healthy and to go home and forget about it. However I started to collapse more often, and by this time I was getting really scared of buses as I could see myself falling every time I went to board one.

I started to walk to work to avoid the problem with the bus. However, this also became a problem as I would get really tired in the legs, and would often fall just trying to walk up a gutter. I would often have to be driven home by some kind soul. I was then sent to a second Neurologist who also said I was all right and that nothing was wrong.

Now after two professional opinions, it was thought to be psychological and I was sent to a Psychiatrist. As I was in a car accident just before this all started, it was thought to be all a nervous reaction.

The first Psychiatrist was in Sydney and we had to travel from Wollongong every few weeks for about 8 or so months. I then started seeing a Psychiatrist in Wollongong. I was under his care for 2 or more years. I continually got worse, telling him all the time of every new symptom. By this time, I had double vision, my speech was slurry, I would try to play squash but would fall over, and I could not walk long distances without assistance and normally would stumble and fall. I could not walk up steps I'd fall down and really hurt myself. I could no longer do my own hair because I couldn't hold my arms above my head. I was having trouble chewing and swallowing, so I would go for a couple of days eating barely enough to keep a sparrow alive. I would also choke and get a lump in my throat when I tried to eat. I lost about 16 kilos and was looking quite sickly. I could not smile or even keep my eyes open for very long. A hot shower would make me very weak and I would often collapse not long after. I could not dress myself and would often fall over just trying to pick something up from the floor. I would only have to lift my leg to get in the shower or get in the car and would fall over backwards. I was becoming a nervous wreck and could not understand why all this was happening to me.

The Psychiatrist said I was doing all of this to myself that I was putting it all on for attention.

Also during this time I tried other things to try and find out why I was sick. I saw a Naturopath, a Chiropractor, and even tried Hypnosis and Acupuncture - all to no avail.

We then asked the Psychiatrist to run more tests to see if something would show up. He agreed, but we didn't know until we got to the hospital that he was putting me in the Psychiatric Ward. All they did in this ward was give me huge amounts of Tranquillisers and Anti-depressants, which gave me a lot of trouble with swallowing. I was like a walking zombie, and wanted to sleep all day. This was supposed to make me forget my problems, but only added to them! I cried a lot in this place, and promised to be good so they would let me go home. That night I had a really bad attack with my breathing and an Ambulance had to be called. When they arrived I had collapsed on the floor and stopped breathing and had to be revived. This was terrifying for my family and me. The Ambulance driver said I was on enough medication to knock out a horse, and should talk to the Doctors at the hospital to which I was rushed for an examination.

The Hospital was not much help. The Doctor said he still thought it was all nerves and to go back to my Psychiatrist. This I didn't do. I got married 3 months later, even though my Psychiatrist had told my parents that I was too mentally ill for marriage when they had discussed it with him before. We had quite a small wedding, as I was so sick.

I was not seeing any Doctors at this stage, as I was sick and tired of being told there was nothing wrong with me. I was trying to do everything around the house that I could but it was very difficult when I was so weak. I battled on as best I could with the washing, ironing, cooking and cleaning. I continued like this for about a year and then I got so bad that I could not even get out of bed and dress myself. I was so sick that I could not be left alone and had to go to my parents' house in the afternoon to be looked after when my husband went to work. One afternoon I was really bad and could barely sit up in bed. I had trouble breathing. It was then that my mother arranged an appointment for the following morning with a new Doctor near us.

I had to be helped into the surgery. The Doctor was astonished when he saw me, and made an appointment with a 3rd Neurologist the next day. I didn't want to go but did so just to please everyone. I'm so glad I did - as it was this Doctor, having asked a lot of questions and carried out a Tensilon Test, who finally put a name to my problem.

After nearly 5 years of searching, I finally found out that I was not nuts as everyone thought. I had a disease called Myasthenia Gravis.

I hope that telling this bit of my history, I may help someone else."

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Mestinon doesn't taste half bad anyway - Walter Bass

"I've just had the joy of being in remission for a year. My morning dose of sandpaper lips disappeared, my two end fingers on my right hand could type again, my vision improved, my morning awakening was not accompanied by a dose of Mestinon, my watch didn't beep every five hours for the next dose, and people stopped saying, "Begyapardon" every time I said something. I still took Prednisone and Imuran, but my breakfast wasn't all pills. I missed the Mestinon so much I even took to baked beans because they looked like it! As the ABC's resident cook says: "Bliss!!"

But the other day it came back! It began with dry lips, which I tried to ignore. Then I found it a bit hard to talk, which I remedied by remaining silent. My two fingers stopped working properly so I just used them for decoration and routine tasks like shaking hands and waving to people. Finally, when I found that my teeth bounced off hard food like apples and raw carrots, I called it quits and reached for the Mestinon.

More bliss! I was almost back to normal. Sure I sounded like a newly arrived European migrant, but after all, I came to this country from Europe when I was seven, so I developed what you might call a "delayed accent". But my chewing went back to normal, and my fingers worked again, and Mestinon doesn't taste half bad anyway, even though it does give me cramps which have my poor wife waking from a deep sleep to get me a hot cloth to put on them. And I feel well even though my vision plays tricks on me, like occasionally seeing two wives when I'm sure I only married one. Still, maybe she has a twin sister stashed away somewhere, only it must be a close relationship because they both do the same things at the same time!

I'-v-e f-o-u-n-d t-h-a-t s-p-e-a-k-i-n-g m-o-r-e s-l-o-w-l-y stops people from saying "begyapardon?". But I find that the hardest of all things to do. Now my friends just look at me as if I've lost my marbles, while people who don't know me think I'm retarded. Still, you've got to look on the bright side. They no longer think I'm drunk!

I suppose the message in all this is that if you go into remission, enjoy the time it gives you. It may be years, it may be months and it may only be for a couple of weeks, but enjoy it while it's there, and don't contemplate jumping off a building when it's gone. Look forward to the next time it comes. It might never happen, but you've seen it happen once, and there's no reason why it can't happen again. If you've never been in remission, it's something to look forward to.

Most of have realised that there is a definite psychological component to this odd disease, and that you feel physically better if you're feeling happy and positive. Many of us , for instance, react negatively, mentally, to weeks of grey days. I know I do, and I'm sure that my Myasthenia reacts negatively to my negative reaction (now there's a mouthful). If you have similar experiences, recognise them for what they are, and keep calm and positive. It'll go when the sun comes out, and it always comes out!

Anyway, believe it or not, my fingers tell me it's time for my next delicious Mestinon. Yum!"

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The Myasthenic Bride – Joyce Engledew

"On 2 March 2003, I was wed.

MG has been my mate for around 12 years (at least from when symptoms became regular). I am happy to say that I am in a kind-of remission – I take medication only a couple of times a month (as long as I do not physically exert myself and I remain relatively stress free – which is pretty hard for a drama queen like me!).

At my engagement party, I felt marvellous and the taking of Mestinon did not even occur to me. That is, not until the photography started. The first few photos were easy enough … then it hit! My smile! It disappeared! My eyelids! Oh how I wished that they’d stay up by themselves! The more I fretted, the less facial control I had. And despite repeated facial rest periods, many of the photos show that all I could muster was the dreaded sleepy-eyed, myasthenic grimace. AARRGH!

However, a valuable lesson was learnt - Mestinon on the wedding day is a MUST, remission or not!

In planning for the wedding, I tried to accommodate MG wherever possible.

I wanted an autumn wedding to avoid weather extremes. The heat and humidity of summer really drag me down – every movement of limb becomes a chore. And very cold temperatures turn my fingers and toes to rubber (my fingers pretend to listen to me – they bend, they stretch, they look like they grab hold – but ask them to pull a button through, or a zip up, and it is mutiny of the digits!). On my wedding day, I did not want to be conscious of what was physically happening under my skin!

2 March was the only day in autumn that both church and reception venue were available (which was close enough to summer to cause a little concern).

It was not until after the invitations were posted that I noticed that the reception venue did not have air conditioning. I had been there umpteen times. It is a historic building and I was taken with the high ceilings, the art work, the ambience and the harbour views. Who looks out for details such as air vents???

“You should have told me!” I cried to the functions manager.
“You didn’t ask” he said.
“So how do you cool the place down?” I asked.
“We open the windows”, he responded.
“What if it is over 30 degrees, like it is today?” I countered.
“We are in a huge sandstone building with huge windows, on top of a hill on Sydney harbour”, he said. “And it’s not hot now, is it?”
My fiance, sensing my rising panic and knowing the drama queen in me, tried to assure me that it NEVER gets hot at the top of the hill in Manly. It was obvious that neither the functions manager nor my fiance had ever participated in Lebanese folk dancing (my parents are of Lebanese background). “It will be OK”, soothed my fiance. “It will be OK”, soothed the function manager.

“Oh, my! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO????” shrieked my bridesmaids, my mother and my sisters-in-law.

So I did the only thing I could do - I prayed. I prayed fervently to God and to Blessed Mary MacKillop that we have a mild day. And if we absolutely had to have heat, I beseeched them to hold back the rain, as possibly worse than any MG symptom on my wedding day, would be FRIZZY hair on my wedding day!

The myasthenic bride needs to consider comfort before style. Myasthenics are a lot more conscious of muscular exertion than the average person.

Heavy bridal fabrics and finicky styles were no-go. An overly long or heavy train on the gown could tax my arm if it were to be carried for any length of time.

Sling-back shoes were also out – they required more energy to stay on than the less stylish (ok ok, much daggier but who’s looking under the big skirt?) lady jane buckle ups.

My bouquet had less flowers than I would have liked, but it was fairly light.

The make up was styled to compensate for droopy eyelids. One fantastic discovery was Lipfinity – a lipstick which really does last the advertised 8 hours! (This has nothing to do with MG at all, but it sure had all of us girls excited! Max Factor did very well that day).

The photographer was instructed to take photographs quickly (none of this, “on the count of three” business). The parents and fiance were instructed to warn me if the smile sagged (I am sure that you have experienced this … you think you have the widest grin, and all the effort exerted should produce a beautiful smile, but no, it’s only the MG grimace).

Well, the day turned out to be beautiful. God came through with sun and 21 degrees. Just perfect! The church was beautiful, the ceremony was beautiful, the photo shoot by the harbour was beautiful.

At the reception, the entertainment was great, the food was great, and everybody was happy (and yes, the venue did heat up). The face started playing up later in the night – but what a wonderful way to succumb to MG – I don’t think I have smiled nor danced so much in my life! I found it difficult to speak properly as my jaw and mouth started failing me, the eyelids were a battle, and as the photos were to later show, the smile had been usurped by the grimace. But amazingly I kept on dancing until the very end!

Despite the challenges of MG, I had a great time. I never thought that I would say “It didn’t even occur to me!” as often as I did during the planning of the wedding, but now I know. And as a happy wife, I hope to never, ever go through it again!"

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My MG experience to share - Paul Boey

"Before being diagnosed with MG in 1998, 8 months prior I had double vision with my right eye-lid dropping. Initially I thought my eyes were playing up and even my eye specialist was fooled.

When my family and I were holidaying in Hadjai (Thailand) the effect became prominent. I became breathless while walking short distances and I needed the air-conditioned hotel room to revive. Heat was my worse enemy. When I went back to Malaysia I consulted a GP and his remark was that there was no cure for MG.

We were desperate and immediately consulted our family GP on arrival, confirm it was MG and she referred me to a neurosurgeon, who in turn admitted me to RPA Hospital for investigation and it was found that a thymectomy was necessary. Pre and post op, I underwent plasmapherosis. The surgeon removed a benign thymoma the size of a ping pong ball. I was put onto Imuran (150mg/daily), prednisone (25mg/daily) and Mestinon (60mg/daily).

After the operation I was still weak but my eyelids did not droop. I still had double vision and my facial muscles were numb. I had poor appetite and could not chew, felt bloated and my overall muscle weakness was still present. I was only capable of eating small meals and swallowing was still a problem.

We contacted the Secretary of the MG NSW association and he explained that he also suffers from MG and was on a lot of health supplements like Gingko Biloba, Syberian Ginseng, Flaxseed oil, primrose oil, bilberry and multivitamins. We added on Bio-ace, Folic Acid, Glucosamide, Calcium, Nonni tablets and later on Kefir and GTF milk powder (which contains colostrum and trivalent chromium). Gingko was the catalyst that triggered my muscles to work and improved my chewing. Calcium helped to improve my joint ache, but I later added Glucosamide, which was more effective.

I tried Kafir that reduced my bloated abdomen. GTF (Glucose Tolerance Factor) improved my general condition ie made me less tired, more energetic, and reduced my muscle weakness and joint aches. I could speak louder and for a longer period without being short of breathe. Generally, I feel good and have no side effects from the health supplements.

At the moment I am on 75 mg Imuran and 30 mg Mestinon and continue to take only Gingko, GTF, Folic Acid and Glucosamide. I see my neurologist once every 2 months.

I do hope this information is helpful to my fellow MGers. For the Kefir and GTF supplements please email me at pboey@hotmail.com or phone me on 0412 823 312 for more information."

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So you can't see straight? Go and see a quack! - Walter Bass

When I started telling people that I had double vision and difficulty with bright light, and I found it hard to chew my way through a plate of custard, and my smaller fingers refused to hit the letters on my typewriter, so most of my letters began with the words: "Dsar ser," and ended with "Yiors fathfilly," and my legs sometimes felt as if they were full of glue, they all said:"yes, but what are your SYMPTOMS?"

After I'd convinced them that they were my symptoms, a lot of them put on their thinking caps. Poor Walter, this, after all, must be curable with what grandma used to use for grandpa's gout. Sounds a bit like gout, anyway. Grandpa used to stumble home cross-eyed sometimes on Saturday nights and grandma used to put him to bed with a cold poultice on his head and a hot one on his tummy, and he was OK in the morning. Have you tried that? Well, no, not really. Oh, you've got to try that. It might fix the problem. It didn't. It gave me blisters on my tummy and the flu.

So next came the herbalist someone talked to. He told my friend that - yes, he'd had something similar and he'd cured it by putting comfrey on his eyelids. So on went a glob of what looked like greasy spinach. It didn't do much for the double vision, but it helped the trouble with bright light. Everything went dark green for a couple of days! Vitamins A-Z didn't do much either. Neither did twenty types of herbal tea, acupuncture or a concoction made of boiled seaweed, honey and cumin seeds. One dear old soul even suggested meditation but, since I had bad hips, I couldn't sit cross legged on the floor without screaming so that was the end of meditation.

Then an eye specialist who should have known better failed to recognise the symptoms of myasthenia and recommended a course of exercises for the double vision. They were great! The double vision became no vision at all as my eyelids, having had enough of all this comfrey, exercise and battered taste buds simply refused to open at all!

So by the time I staggered up the steps of my GP's surgery, groped for the waiting room door handle, stepped on the five year old boy playing on the floor , apologised to his mother, and slumped into a seat, I was ready to jump out the window if only I could have found it! It took just two minutes. My GP looked at me, held a finger up and asked how many I could see. Silly question. Two, of course! Then he said:" I know what you've got. You've got myasthenia gravis……very interesting…..you're the first case I've seen. Hang on, I'll get my partner". So the partner came and they held up fingers and looked at me as if I'd just arrived from Mars and found me "verrrrry interesting."

So did the specialist. He asked me how I felt about having my thymus out. I thought he was trying to tell me that my zipper was undone, but it dawned on me that he was considering having me cut about. He sent me for a cat scan, and they found me verrrrrry interesting too. But when I took the pictures back to the specialist he said my thymus could stay in but I had to take Prednisone and Mestinon and Imuran.

Just after that I went to Germany and a medical cousin recommended something that actually did work for quite some time. It comprised daily drops and injections of a compound made of snake venom and, for a while, it seemed to make a definite improvement in my condition. But then, a couple of years later there was a delay in delivery and I ran out. Although I resumed the treatment a few months later it was never the same. I wasn't sorry because it cost me $4000 a year and endless stressful weeks waiting to see if the parcel would arrive. As well as that, the injections in my sit-me-down was creating hard lumps of scar tissue, and my poor bottom was starting to feel like a pineapple.

There's a moral in all this. If you've got myasthenia, try anything you like. As with me, some of it may work. But whatever you eventually decide to do, let the experts look at you first!

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